For Our Canadian Correspondent

In the comments in the previous post, monado makes a request:

Post something else! It’s April!

If you’re short of inspiration, take your excellent explanation of Hawai’ian certificates of live birth from Ed Brayton’s blog and post that. It was admirably clear.

This of course is in reference to the claims that Obama is not qualified for President.  Specifically, that because Hawai’i issues COLB to certain individuals born outside of Hawai’i, his COLB doesn’t prove that he was born in Hawai’i.  Unfortunately, it looks like my original comment got mangled.  So here’s how it was supposed to look:

IF Obama were a Natural Born Citzen, he would have long ago produced his Birth Certificate (the Certificate of Live Birth is NOT even accepted by Hawaii as proof of Hawaiian Birth )

Incorrect. The reason the short form (COLB) is insufficient for proof of Native Hawai’ian birth is because the short form doesn’t have proof that the parents are Native Hawai’ians. And by Native Hawai’ian, I mean descended from the original, indigenous population, the Hawai’ian equivalent of Native Americans.

For everything but certain genealogical data, the COLB is legally the equivalent of a certified photocopy of the original. That means that a COLB is sufficient proof of citizenship to get a driver’s license, register to vote, get a government job, get a passport, and even become President of the United States of America.

(I also had wanted to respond to Michael Raston in the same post, but that part and the quote from Gregory Black somehow got deleted, and I can’t remember what I said).  A followup to that comment:

wrt COLB for non-Hawai’ian birth:

If the parents of a child born outside of Hawai’i lived in Hawai’i as their primary residence for at least a year before the child was born, they can request a birth certificate issued by Hawai’i. One reason is for the extra information required for the indigenous population program I mentioned earlier. The other reason is more pragmatic: Hawai’i is in the middle of the world’s largest ocean. Although not as difficult as it once was, it’s a major expense for someone to get certified documents if they are not stored on the archipelago. However, as noted, the vault copy and any other copy, such as the short form (often called the COLB, even though the long form acronym also is COLB) by law must have the accurate place of birth.

For similar reasons, adoptive parents may also request a Hawai’ian birth certificate. I am unaware of any provisions for immigration (and would be surprised if there were, because the immigration documents should have the necessary information).

Hope that clarified things.


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